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This needs to fucking stop. This is an absolute invasion of women, this is disgusting, and this Tumblr needs to go away.
We need to report both the …
I understand that some of you women (and maybe men) are ‘disgusted’ by this Tumblr and Twitter account; however, I don’t see how it is illegal? Remember if you start “policing” and censoring sites that you consider “immoral” - you are opening a can of worms that you might not enjoy. The legality of the issue is one that I wonder if anyone is willing to give more information about - and not just the “emotional” aspect of it. I don’t see names or even faces in many of these pictures either. I am always very hesitant when I see people demanding “censorship” on something based on the fact that they find it “disgusting”.
It’s not the legal part- because far as I know, there aren’t any laws for this stuff, because it’s on public property the pictures are taken and there are no faces/names. To be considered stalking, it requires more than one account of the action(s) (I believe). Could go down as harassment, but that would be up to girls with pictures on the site. Then they’d have to track down whoever took the picture anyway, because the site host is only an accessory.
So, first off, it’s enraging that this kind of stuff can go on and next to nothing can be done about it- thus allowing any borderline weirdos to get away with a bizarre form of peep showing without any repercussions.
Secondly, it’s scary. It’s scary that women have to worry about wearing certain things for fear of creepy assholes taking a sneak shot of our butt/cleavage/up skirt…even worse to know there is sites dedicated to letting them upload it for their community freak show to enjoy and do…well, whatever they do. I should be able to wear a dress/skirt/shorts without worrying about the person standing behind me in line, or yoga pants without someone sneaking an ass shot while I’m grocery shopping.
Obviously we all know those people aren’t going to go away, we know it will still happen regardless of a site/sites. Having a site like this just encourages more of it-it encourages competition- who can get the best/creepiest/hottest shot. Once again women are used as an object for ogling, instead of as a human being who probably wouldn’t be ok with this. Think how anyone would feel knowing someone was taking secret pictures of you while you were walking down the street, getting coffee, grocery shopping, hanging with friends, lying on a chair while on vacation- and you had no idea it was happening- then later finding it randomly on the internet with some nasty comments attached.
It has zero to do with immorality and everything to do with making women feel unsafe.
Thank you for your reply. However, you sort of went back to the same issue at hand. You went to why you think it is “wrong” and disgusting and “feels wrong” etc. I was asking for the legality of the Tumblr/Twitter site since these objectors are demanding it be removed/censored. I have a daughter; I know it would piss me off if there was a picture of her - that reduced her to a “hot pair of tits /ass”. But my disgust and my demand to take legal action are two different things. What if all the actors were “disgusted” by fanfiction? Fandoms? What if they bonded together and demanded that no Tumblr page could contain their pictures/stories about them? What if authors/copyright holders demanded that all fanfic websites ceased - especially the ones containing kink memes and slash fan-fiction because they found it disgusting? When it comes to censorship - I draw a very thick line - and I try to maintain my cool about it. If you wish to “censor” things that make women feel “unsafe” - my god - do you know how long that list could be - and how subjective it would be too? What if a woman felt “unsafe” about a TV show called Hannibal; where women are constantly mutilated and dismembered? Do we start there…? Or do we start with just the Tumblr sites that glorify and reward Hannibal for it’s “great stories/characters and love for Hannibal Lector”? I’m sorry but your answer didn’t really help me understand the position of wanting to pull down those websites.
You definitely have a valid point. I don’t know if comparing real people to fictional characters is the best way to make that point though- Yes, the actors are real, but it’s the characters people fandom over, where in this situation it’s real women just going about their day getting creeped on without knowing. Fan fiction poses no potential threat to the fictional characters. However, who’s to say things couldn’t escalate from taking just some sexually themed photos to someone going further?
I feel censorship arguments have such a grey area, and everyone has a different opinion on them. Where should it stop, what should be and shouldn’t be censored- it’s so vast that it would really have to be all or nothing, so long as it falls under legal rights. Even then, laws are so general and contradicting that it’s so easy to create loopholes there to.
Under Canadian law ( because that’s the only law I sort of know) and assuming Tumblrs harassment policy is SOMEWHAT similar in its ideals- this site could fall under harassment.
Harassment is a form of discrimination. It includes offensive behavior, comments or insults based on one or more of the prohibited grounds of discrimination in the Code. Harassment also occurs when people say something that they know will make you feel uncomfortable.
You have the right to be free from discrimination and harassment in facilities and services (shops, restaurants, transit, hospitals, schools and other public places), housing, contracts, employment and membership in unions or vocational associations.
That’s the base of it, but I’m very certain their are grey area’s there to, so who knows. Like I said before, legally for any of that to even apply, the photograph-ees would have to find the original photographer and take it up with them. Which, good luck.
Here though, I guess it will be left up to Tumblr admins to decide if it’s breaching their policies or not.
These are all valid points, but if nothing can be done about the content of the blog I really think tumblr should at least, if possible, interfere with these rules:
Picture Removal: If you happen to stumble across your picture on this site, you can two things. (1) You can admire the fact that there is something about you sexy enough that somebody wanted to creep you and send it in. If you fall under this category, then maybe leave a comment under the pic and be proud you made it! (2) If however, you wore something sexy, tight or revealing and are shocked, ashamed, belittled and embarrassed that you were creeped and posted on here, then contact us at the email above and include the link and description of the picture. Your request will be reviewed and if found legitimate, the picture will be removed.